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I was very surprised by Cammisa's opinion on the car. Timestamped for when they really get into it and start discussing the Integra.
Carmudgeon Podcast -- Camissa and Derek discuss the Integra
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It's... yeah, it's a little hard to parse. There are some takes here that I don't agree with, for sure. But overall, I was happy to see Cammisa be so enthusiastic about the car, as he is pretty critical and bags on all sorts of cars, from what I understand. I have my own feelings about the price gap between the Si and the Integra (TL;DR version: looks like a great bargain on paper based on MSRP, but good luck finding a Civic Si without a markup), and I also have my own personal preferences about amenities (and the Si seems nice, but comparatively stripped out). I don't know much about the other guy, but he's clearly not enthused about current cars. Which, fine.
Car folks have a lot of capital-O opinions, but I'm always pleasantly surprised when I assume an automotive journalist or car personality is going to whine about the Integra being slow/low-output, but they end up being pretty effusive about the driving experience. You love to see it.
2023 Acura Integra A-Spec Tech PWP; 2019 RDX Advance; 2013 Ford C-Max Energi
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I couldn't watch it all. But I suppose they have their fans. He says that it's a great car until you compare it to something he can't get and he's never driven?
What I like about the Acura over the Si (I haven't driven an Si either so I am just as much an expert?)
1. Hatch
2. Suspension enhancement from adaptive dampers
3. Upscale interior
4. Fantastic sound system
5. Exterior styling
6. Individual mode
7. HUD
Granted there's some subjective stuff here. Do these aspects add $7000 in value? For me, yeah. YMMV
What I like about the Acura over the Si (I haven't driven an Si either so I am just as much an expert?)
1. Hatch
2. Suspension enhancement from adaptive dampers
3. Upscale interior
4. Fantastic sound system
5. Exterior styling
6. Individual mode
7. HUD
Granted there's some subjective stuff here. Do these aspects add $7000 in value? For me, yeah. YMMV
I actually made a light effort to find an Si and was repeatedly rebuffed. Suddenly, the Integra became the best choice because of what you listed and because there was a snowball’s chance in hell I could even look at one, let alone get one.
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I saw this the other day and was very pleased to hear Jason’s report, especially the little nuances that haven’t been mentioned by other journalists, like blipping the throttle, seating position, and lack of stability control intervention when doing a burnout.
I’m not surprised by Derek’s ‘meh’ response as he doesn’t have modern car context. I don’t expect the Integra to have the kind of feedback of an 80s-90s car, but I’ll trade that for the ability to daily it for another 15+ years.
As for the title, I think anything half decent with a stick shift is a future classic. Not Type-R level of classic, but maybe like a 90s Si.
I’m not surprised by Derek’s ‘meh’ response as he doesn’t have modern car context. I don’t expect the Integra to have the kind of feedback of an 80s-90s car, but I’ll trade that for the ability to daily it for another 15+ years.
As for the title, I think anything half decent with a stick shift is a future classic. Not Type-R level of classic, but maybe like a 90s Si.
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I noticed that, too. Only solution is to OFFER THE MANUAL ON EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME
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It just shows that car nuts are never truly satisfied lol. Acura could've put the manual on the middle trim models and people would fly off the handle for some reason.
"They're putting the adaptive dampers/9" infotainment/safety tech behind a paaaaaaywaaaaallllll!" -Cries of the Masses
I would really like to get some data on who all the people complaining are. Honda/Acura have not made it this far by building cars nobody wants.
Loving my Teggy. 💯 Agree
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