[knerrd]

2023 1.5 Turbo Integra FlashPro

Hondata releases FlashPro for the 2023 1.5 Turbo Integra. 258 lb-ft torque and 238 hp greatly enhances your driving experience. What was mild before becomes blistering. Flat foot shifting is a new, f...

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I have no experience with this product. How does it work and does it really work? Has anyone had any prior experience with this type of product. If it really does what it claims, it seems pretty interesting.

 

[Gedk]

Curious also. Would like to learn more.

 

[RUNN1N]

Coming from IntegraForums, the Hondata folks have been pretty active in posting and actually encourage people to call in with questions. They and the KTuner guys have been quick and eager to give input there.

 

[Slowcarfast]

I haven’t used these and I’m not an expert, but my understanding is they have preprogrammed tunes (timing, air/fuel ratios, etc) for the engine computer to make more torque and power. If you’ve heard of “chipping” your car, it’s the modern equivalent of that.
I saw an older video from Hondata where you could select whether you had a stock or different intake, exhaust, etc. so they had a tune for each combination, which means you can upload the appropriate one as you build up your car.

I believe these do what they claim, but some require higher octane fuel (93, 100, etc) to make use of it, so keep in mind what’s available in your area.

Here’s a thread on someone’s experience on the prior gen Civic: Hondata...Flashpro... +6 PSI ... my ongoing review
I heard the clutch is the weak point on this Civic/Integra platform so depending how much torque the tune adds, you may need to upgrade the clutch as well.

 

[MateoTorgy]

2023 1.5 Turbo Integra FlashPro

Hondata releases FlashPro for the 2023 1.5 Turbo Integra. 258 lb-ft torque and 238 hp greatly enhances your driving experience. What was mild before becomes blistering. Flat foot shifting is a new, f...

www.hondata.com

I have no experience with this product. How does it work and does it really work? Has anyone had any prior experience with this type of product. If it really does what it claims, it seems pretty interesting.

Interestingly, the Hondata product script suggests the 234 horsepower is what is obtained AFTER the Hondata flash tune, when in fact, based on Doug's (owner's) YouTube video showing him do his dyno testing on a STOCK Integra 6MT, that is the STOCK factory tuned horsepower -- at the wheel, not the crank. My son has had his Civic Si for seven months now, and both of us agree that my Integra 6MT (which I bought last month from Luther Acura Bloomington MN) is noticeably quicker. The Integra owners group needs to start waking up to the fact that this car is a 3,000-pound hatch with 234 (not 200) horsepower, which makes its power-weight ratio more favorable than the GTI, the WRX, and the 230i. In other words, don't lay silent when you hear the haters characterize this car as slow. My stable of cars and motorcycles over the years has included a GTI, my wife's 340i X Drive (B58 engine), and my Yamaha MT1000 and Triumph Street Triple. This car is every bit as fun, if not more fun, than all of them. Good day.

 

[Gedk]

After 1,100 miles, I totally agree.

 

[LATeg]

Bumping this in case anyone has any new experience since it's been out a little bit longer now.

 

[nate8088]

Re-bumping, since I now have my car. There are some things I'd love to modify in here.

I'd love to play with the tune and the ways it handles rev hang and rev match, but also, I'd love for the least close adaptive cruise distance to be less than 24 miles away from the car in front of you. It's kinda useless with it slowing down for cars that are barely within sight.

 

[LATeg]

I'd love for the least close adaptive cruise distance to be less than 24 miles away from the car in front of you. It's kinda useless with it slowing down for cars that are barely within sight.

I had to disable the adaptive cruise control because it was to cautious and just use the regular cruise.

 

[SteveP]

Interestingly, the Hondata product script suggests the 234 horsepower is what is obtained AFTER the Hondata flash tune, when in fact, based on Doug's (owner's) YouTube video showing him do his dyno testing on a STOCK Integra 6MT, that is the STOCK factory tuned horsepower -- at the wheel, not the crank. My son has had his Civic Si for seven months now, and both of us agree that my Integra 6MT (which I bought last month from Luther Acura Bloomington MN) is noticeably quicker. The Integra owners group needs to start waking up to the fact that this car is a 3,000-pound hatch with 234 (not 200) horsepower, which makes its power-weight ratio more favorable than the GTI, the WRX, and the 230i. In other words, don't lay silent when you hear the haters characterize this car as slow. My stable of cars and motorcycles over the years has included a GTI, my wife's 340i X Drive (B58 engine), and my Yamaha MT1000 and Triumph Street Triple. This car is every bit as fun, if not more fun, than all of them. Good day.

Totally agree. I have had my 6mt for over 1200 miles now and once you are in third gear the car feels very quick. I'd love to see someone attempt 0-60 runs with summer tires and also would love to see third gear pulls vs. GTI., BMW 230, Mercedes A320, Audi A3, which are the cars competitors.

1 and 2 gears are to short and along with crappy tires makes this car appear slower than the 0-60 mark indicates.

Listed 200hp vs 234hp means cheaper insurance!

 

[SteamedHams]

Interestingly, the Hondata product script suggests the 234 horsepower is what is obtained AFTER the Hondata flash tune, when in fact, based on Doug's (owner's) YouTube video showing him do his dyno testing on a STOCK Integra 6MT, that is the STOCK factory tuned horsepower -- at the wheel, not the crank. My son has had his Civic Si for seven months now, and both of us agree that my Integra 6MT (which I bought last month from Luther Acura Bloomington MN) is noticeably quicker. The Integra owners group needs to start waking up to the fact that this car is a 3,000-pound hatch with 234 (not 200) horsepower, which makes its power-weight ratio more favorable than the GTI, the WRX, and the 230i. In other words, don't lay silent when you hear the haters characterize this car as slow. My stable of cars and motorcycles over the years has included a GTI, my wife's 340i X Drive (B58 engine), and my Yamaha MT1000 and Triumph Street Triple. This car is every bit as fun, if not more fun, than all of them. Good day.

Regardless of how much power it’s really making, the quickest 0-60 I’ve been able to record is 7.1s with rollout. No matter how you slice it, that’s behind the other cars you listed by a fair bit. We’re you able to get better times in yours?

 

[SteveP]

Regardless of how much power it’s really making, the quickest 0-60 I’ve been able to record is 7.1s with rollout. No matter how you slice it, that’s behind the other cars you listed by a fair bit. We’re you able to get better times in yours?

Regardless of how much power it’s really making, the quickest 0-60 I’ve been able to record is 7.1s with rollout. No matter how you slice it, that’s behind the other cars you listed by a fair bit. We’re you able to get better times in yours?

I think it's the gearing.

Was just checking out the Kia Forte GT (25k) and even that has a quicker 0-60, with the same engine specs.

2023 Kia Forte GT

• Engine: 1.6L turbocharged 4-cylinder
• Horsepower: 201 hp
• Top Speed: 120 mph estimated
• 0-60 MPH: 6.7 seconds

 

[SteamedHams]

I think it's the gearing.

Was just checking out the Kia Forte GT (25k) and even that has a quicker 0-60, with the same engine specs.

2023 Kia Forte GT

• Engine: 1.6L turbocharged 4-cylinder
• Horsepower: 201 hp
• Top Speed: 120 mph estimated
• 0-60 MPH: 6.7 seconds

I think it’s more likely the tires. Those times are for the Forte GT when equipped with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 summer tires. I think its highly likely the Integra can shave at least a few tenths off its time with summer tires as well; as it currently stands the car doesn't even get performance all-season tires like the Conti ECDWS; it gets grand touring tires. These ContiProContacts are the same tire that other sporty cars such as the Nissan Altima and Ford Escape are equipped with from the factory. They are garbage when it comes to grip.

 

[Wario]

Bumping in the hopes that somebody here has installed the tune and can report back.

 

[WakeIntegraGuy]

My son has had his Civic Si for seven months now, and both of us agree that my Integra 6MT (which I bought last month from Luther Acura Bloomington MN) is noticeably quicker.

Thanks for sharing this. I just a traded in my 2022 SI for a 2023 Integra 6MT, mainly to get the better comfort options. In spite of all the reviews to the contrary, I've started to think the Integra may not only have more comfort but may also have more oomph to it than the SI. I'll be eagerly following any updates to this discussion.

 

[JimmyM01]

Thanks for sharing this. I just a traded in my 2022 SI for a 2023 Integra 6MT, mainly to get the better comfort options. In spite of all the reviews to the contrary, I've started to think the Integra may not only have more comfort but may also have more oomph to it than the SI. I'll be eagerly following any updates to this discussion.

How do you like the Integra's suspension profile compared to the Si?

 

[WakeIntegraGuy]

How do you like the Integra's suspension profile compared to the Si?

In terms of more comfortable daily and long-trip highway rides, yes I definitely like the adaptive suspension and Comfort mode options. And Individual mode letting you mix and match suspension and sport mode is really good too. If I was 19 going on 20, I'd probably pick the SI. But at 69 going on 70, I'm definitely more inclined toward the Integra.

 

[johnv]

I definitely like the adaptive suspension

This was a key for me accepting the Integra value proposition. I've observed that the suspension in comfort is good for commuting, but the throttle response is rolled back noticably. So much so, that it's kind of dead in top gear with revs under 3000. Much more alive in Normal mode. YMMV-
Sorry this post is not about the Hondata tune, I have no tune on my Integra.