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10 months after giving a deposit at the Honda dealer for an Si and having that moved to an Integra there are no cars in sight for the rest of the year. I asked for my deposit back. Turned out they have a Red/black manual build for September. So maybe this will happen. I suspect their waiting line was shortened by someone passing on the car?

This possibility gave me pause to take an even harder look at these cars. I see a backseat that may never have a passenger, like my Gen 9 Si sedan. Maybe three in 7 years.

Then it occurred to me that I would gladly pay more to have a parcel shelf back there and a two door. I bet others might too. But how much?

Studied on it a bit and an honest $10,000 more comes to mind, in terms of how useful the car would be to me.

Just chunk a foot or so and a few hundred pounds and who needs an S? Plus it would be the car we expected and the story continues. Maybe worth $12,000 more?
 

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I'd buy the new Nissan Z over a 2 door Integra they were in the same price range. And the Integra is the car I expected it to be: which is a nicer Civic. Nothing more, nothing less. Just like previous base Integras were. I don't understand people who claim all Integras were so special. The Type-Rs created the legend, not the run of the mill specs.
 

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I had a 370Z Nismo. Fun car, some things to really like. But very little luggage space and I never trusted the back end. My one Tennis bag about filled the trunk. Fails the “Take a friend to the beach for the weekend” test.

But yes you have to look at it in this segment, a manual fun car. Personally I could not get past that huge square up front. Maybe a Nismo version will be different.

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I’d pay more for a shorter wheelbase, but it would still need a backseat. Maybe another $3k.
If I didn’t need a real backseat, I’d go Toyobaru (also less money).
If it’s just a parcel shelf, that sounds like a CRX (hey that actually fits Acura’s nomenclature better), but I don’t believe they’d be able to sell at $10k over an Integra.
 

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I would have likely preferred a 3-door Integra, but I’d want the rear seat. I also wouldn’t pay more than for the 5-door. I considered the Toyobaru twins but they don’t have moonroofs. Ditto @jay_rain7 re: 400Z, I would have seriously considered at Integra’s price point.
 

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I'd buy the new Nissan Z over a 2 door Integra they were in the same price range. And the Integra is the car I expected it to be: which is a nicer Civic. Nothing more, nothing less. Just like previous base Integras were. I don't understand people who claim all Integras were so special. The Type-Rs created the legend, not the run of the mill specs.
This.

$5-10K more on top of the Integra's MSRP gets you into FR platform vehicles. I rather go with those if considering a coupe, new or used.

Even better, you can save your $10k and get a new Toyota GR 86 or Subaru BRZ for the same price as the Integra ;)
 

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10 months after giving a deposit at the Honda dealer for an Si and having that moved to an Integra there are no cars in sight for the rest of the year. I asked for my deposit back. Turned out they have a Red/black manual build for September. So maybe this will happen. I suspect their waiting line was shortened by someone passing on the car?

This possibility gave me pause to take an even harder look at these cars. I see a backseat that may never have a passenger, like my Gen 9 Si sedan. Maybe three in 7 years.

Then it occurred to me that I would gladly pay more to have a parcel shelf back there and a two door. I bet others might too. But how much?

Studied on it a bit and an honest $10,000 more comes to mind, in terms of how useful the car would be to me.

Just chunk a foot or so and a few hundred pounds and who needs an S? Plus it would be the car we expected and the story continues. Maybe worth $12,000 more?
For that kind of a price increase It'd be a bit much for me to come to terms with. Especially with what other coupes would be available in that price range.
 

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As a previous owner of a '95 Integra GSR I have to say that the coupe was not practical at all. I was able to get by, but was seriously regretting not getting a 4 door back in 2000 when I bought the car used. Now I am waiting for my new Integra and am quite happy with the fact that is it a 4 door. In fact, I would not buy it most likely if it was a 2 door.
 

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OK folks, apparently Honda talked with every one of you before making their choice for no coupes. Fair enough.

But gets me wondering who would ever buy one.

I have trucks for hauling stuff and cars for pure sport so something like an Si fills the gap between, basically for trips out of town or if it just feels like the thing to do today.

Last year we had a Lexus LC500. Much more of a unicorn, 2 door 5L V8 convertible. They are very comfortable and the sound is perfect. But can’t haul much and very thirsty. And honestly too nice a car to drive around daily on real roads with real drivers.

Appreciate your inputs and I am likely to bring one of these home when opportunity comes along. Lovin‘ the Gen 9 in meantime.
 
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OK folks, apparently Honda talked with every one of you before making their choice for no coupes. Fair enough.

But gets me wondering who would ever buy one.

I have trucks for hauling stuff and cars for pure sport so something like an Si fills the gap between, basically for trips out of town or if it just feels like the thing to do today.

Last year we had a Lexus LC500. Much more of a unicorn, 2 door 5L V8 convertible. They are very comfortable and the sound is perfect. But can’t haul much and very thirsty. And honestly too nice a car to drive around daily on real roads with real drivers.

Appreciate your inputs and I am likely to bring one of these home when opportunity comes along. Lovin‘ the Gen 9 in meantime.
Yeah, this is kind of interesting. If I were keeping my LX470 as the big capable hauler when I needed it, I'd probably be far more open to a coupe, in general. For folks who don't need the utility of a back seat or cargo space (or if they have other cars for that), I can absolutely see how those folks might bemoan the loss of a 2-door Civic/Integra option.

But for the market, and for me anecdotally, the 4-door makes sense, as does the the hatch capability. Lots of folks are looking for the "do-everything" option, especially if they don't have access to the ideal two-car solution (or three-car solution, haha). This does put the Integra into a strange jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none space, but because it ticks so many boxes, it works out well for someone like me who wants the sportiness and engagement, but also needs the utility and practicality (not just space, but fuel economy as well). A Miata or a BRZ/GR86 would probably be a hoot, but it wouldn't be a good daily for me personally.

Aesthetically, I strongly preferred the 10th-gen Civic coupe over the sedan or the hatch; the design language really worked the best on the coupe, in my opinion, and I was sad to see it go. But I can see how it wouldn't really sell super great. (The few true coupes left at this point are also RWD, which is generally a selling point for buyers specifically in the market for a sporty coupe, I'm guessing. A FWD coupe from Honda would be admittedly very cool and would harken back to the legends of yore, for sure, but I am guessing that the actual buyers market for that layout would be very, very niche. I am trying to think of an FWD coupe that is currently on the market right now but I'm coming up short.) EDIT: Hyundai Veloster. I think that's the only FWD coupe sold new right now -- I'm going to call it a coupe for these purposes, anyway.
 
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